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December 18, 2012

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Morality of collecting guns

The only moral issue related to collecting guns is that the collection must be small enough to manage. For example if a person lived in a small house in a town, a collection of ten thousand guns would be too large for that person to control. On the other hand it is clearly immoral for any law-abiding, able-bodied individual to fail to have at least one functional gun in their posession. It is also clearly immoral for the Methodist Church to advocate for gun control as we do in our official position on gun violence. It appears that Paul Rider is unaware of the immoral advocacy of the Methodist Church

Donald Kosloff more than 2 years ago

Guns and Morality

How many of anything is a collection? At what point does gun ownership become more than self-defense? (and is it "bad" if it does?) Is going to a firing range ...and perhaps taking your kids along ... to become familiar with and proficient with a gun going overboard into a somehow evil hobby? ...or is it the wise and responsible thing for any gun owner to do on a regular basis? In addition to His natural Creation, God has provided through human ingenuity many wondrous things, and pretty much all of those things can be used in both awesomely beautiful AND awesomely terrible ways. Banning ANY item that might be used in an immoral way does not change morality. I believe we need to focus on teaching personal responsibility and respect for God and for others rather than engaging in a futile attempt to ban anything and everything that someone might use to hurt themselves or others. It is the way in which an item is used at any one time that is immoral/evil ...guns, knives, alcohol, cars, money, baseball bats, etc ...and not the item itself.

Paul Rider more than 2 years ago

guns

There's plenty of idols around, you can start w/ self and materialism of all all kinds....drugs, cars, you name it.
I've been around guns of all kinds ever since I was born. When I go into a room full of gun collectors I feel quite safe. It's people that sometimes frighten me, not guns. I was once beat almost to death - no guns involved.
Once I was robbed at gunpoint, gun cocked. The gun itself was not nearly as frightening as the person holding it. As Christians, we both know what the problem is, and guns ain't it.
Well, you say, just take the guns from these hurting and broken people then. But who decides who is incompetent, and a flawed logic might opt for the easy way of taking them from all citizens.
Which leaves us with....armed police, armed soldiers, armed 'privileged' persons, retired cops, Judges, and the rich. Oh, and real criminals, all owning guns.
Faced with that police-state/fascist paradigm, I choose to keep my own guns, thank you.
The poor don't 'collect' guns, but need them nevertheless.

“That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.”

― George Orwell

steve more than 2 years ago

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