It IS Simple!

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It doesn't get any simpler than this

If we are such a depraved and harmful church then you should leave instead of expending all your energy and time in trying to force your views on the rest of us.

betsy 218 days ago

Even Simpler is

The Traditionalist Plan. It does NOT come from the Queer Clergy Caucus. In fact the Traditionalist Plan would do away with the Queer Clergy Caucus by means of asking them to resign or defrocking them after they violated their oath.

The Traditionalist Plan does not require any changes to the BOD. It would simply require enforcement of its policies (after all there must be discipline as part of the BOD). There would be no more ignoring those policies you didn’t like.

The Traditionalist Plan simply requires adherence to the same BOD which clergy originally swore an oath to uphold. If they can no longer adhere to that oath, they can leave. It is ridiculous to try and change the BOD because you have had a change of heart AFTER you swore an oath to that BOD. It is YOUR problem, not the UMC’s problem.

So, Rev. Lyall asks what could be simpler than the Simple Plan? Well, it turns out that the Traditionalist Plan is actually simpler than the Simple Plan.


Your loving brother in Christ,
Steve

Steve 219 days ago

Love your neighbor

except for the part about loving your neighbor. The Traditionalist Plan is lacking on that score.

Catherine 216 days ago

Not true

Traditionalist Plan gives clergy another opportunity to abide by their oath they took originally to abide by the BOD. That is loving them enough to give them another chance to act in a Godly manner and follow through with what they swore an oath before God to uphold. If they can’t be trusted to abide by their word, they have no credit ability and no place in church leadership.

Loving them does not equal agreeing with them.

Steve 215 days ago


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     Bishop Robert T. Hoshibata preaches on the healing power of love at the April 26 evening service at the 2012 General Conference."To be God’s people is to be reminded that God is the Creator of each of us. We are all part of the human family. And in our human relationships we come face-to-face with a wide and wonderfully diverse family of individuals each unique but each beloved by God. Although we do not always agree, I believe it is important for us to know that we hold more in common with one another than any differences that keep us from caring for one another."

– Bishop Bob Hoshibata, God’s People Journeying Together, Desert Southwest Annual Conference website.

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