One Church Plan – Impacts on Clergy



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Rev. Livingston you state that there is nothing in the OCP plan that requires a traditionalist pastor to do anything against their conscience. You are absolutely wrong. The OCP would require me to be part of an organization that defies the Bible and endorses sin. It may not require me to be part of the sinful practice (how long that will stand is in doubt since some of the denominations that had the given the same clause to protect objectors have since removed them) but it makes me part of an organization that endorses sin. Logically this is the equivalent of saying it is ok to be in the KKK as long as you don't participate in racist activities. I am sure we both agree that idea is wrong! The truth is traditional pastors, laity and churches will leave in mass numbers if the OCP passes. It means we are members of something we can't support. I have a hard time understanding why some can't understand this. I want to remind you of what happened in the 1840's. In 1840 the church would not take a stand against slavery and a large number of Methodists left the denomination and formed the Wesleyan church. Four years later the church took a stand against sin and acted against the Bishop of Georgia whose wife owned slaves. The southern churches revolted and left the Methodist church in chaos instead of a peaceful split. Of course it was too late for the northern branch of the Methodist church to regain those who had left to form the Wesleyan church. The moral: forcing people to be part of a church they disagree with will never work. A peaceful split is far superior to one that results from strife and not mutual agreement. Be warned! The OCP WILL DRIVE MILLIONS OF TRADITIONALISTS OUT OF THE UMC!

Scott 102 days ago

This is so sad

One group allows the other group to refuse to endorse homosexual behavior and relationships. The other group is not able to allow the first group to include gays and gay marriage. It seems lopsided to me.

Randy Zercher 102 days ago

It is sad

Randy, there's a very real fear on the part of traditionalists that the OCP will permit "freedom of conscience" for a season, and then after a while remove that "freedom" as just happened with the Episcopal Church. All that's needed for that change is a vote of 50% plus 1. (Of course, 50% plus 1 is all it takes for any General Conference action apart from constitutional changes, which isn't really the best means of decision making within Christ's church.)

John 102 days ago

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