Judicial Council Allows Alternative Proposals for 2019 General Conference

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Whose side is God on?

For many years, the German military displayed insignia proclaiming Gott mit Uns ("God is with us" or "God is on our side"). In matters of religion, opposing sides take the same attitude which makes compromise impossible. This calls to mind the words of Saint Susan B. Anthony, "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires."

David 78 days ago

Why the UMC cannot stay together

This statement caught my attention: "The ruling is widely seen as a major defeat for the Council in its efforts to avoid the kind of polarized, acrimonious deliberations..." Multiple conflicting and contradictory and strongly held theologies are trying to occupy the same space. How can the church be anything but polarized and acrimonious? Everybody is coming from totally different perspectives and understandings and nobody wants to back down. Either God endorses same gender relationships and people deciding what gender they are or God does not. Together we have absolutely nothing to offer to the world except theological mishmash which speaks to an indecisive and wishy washy God. I do not believe these are descriptors of the triune God!

betsy 81 days ago

Nothing like a sense of balance

So Good News is a "faction" and an "unofficial caucus" but Reconciling Ministries Network is an "advocacy group"?

John 82 days ago

More Bigotry

Given the Way Forward people submitted one proposal that fully backs the paradigm of the conservative right but did not submit a parallel proposal that fully backs the paradigm of the progressive left, we know this process is corupt to its core.

I have no hope for reconciliation. At this point, I hope and pray for a swift and permanent UMC split. Let's get it over with, people.

Ben 82 days ago

GC 2019

This decision fascinates me. It appears to open the door to either utter chaos or a plan to spit the church which can then be voted on in 2020.

Christy Thomas 82 days ago

We already have utter chaos

Dear Ms. Thomas. What plan could have been created at this point which would have not forced either Traditionalists or Progressives to compromise/sacrifice their respective values? Why is disunity in nominal unity preferable to two denominations in the Weslyan tradition going their separate ways in peace so they can concentrate on their respective missions and ministries without having to donate so much time, money and energy into fighting against one another? Is it really so horrible that there are a variety of denominations in the US alone who in their separate ways and traditions are trying to bring people to Christ? The utter chaos has already manifested itself. Let's let General Conference sort it out so both sides can move on.

John 82 days ago

2019 or 2020 What difference??

Had the ruling gone the other way (apparently it wasn't even close), considering that most of the delegates in 2019 will be the same as in 2016, there really was very little chance the COB's recommended plan would have been accepted. Thus the decision would have just been put off for one more year, leading to an "acrimonious" gathering in 2020 without any guarantee of a peaceful love fest in 2019. The time for dithering must stop. Let the General Conference decide which way the Discipline will be stated and provide a gracious exit for those who feel they can't comply. The Disunited Methodist Church, and the COB, needs to get over its worship of the idea of unity at any cost and come to terms that two separate denominations in the Weslyan tradition (one wed to a traditional understanding of Scripture and one "progressive") are the only means by which peace and harmony and an emphasis on mission can flourish. Just my opinion of course.

John 82 days ago

Amen, amen

John, you nailed it. There is no way we traditionalists and progressives are ever going to agree on this or other social justice issues. The only fair and Godly thing to do is to split so that we may once again sow our seeds in fertile ground and away from the thorns of progressivism.

Steve 81 days ago


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