Council of Bishops Names 32 Members to Commission

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Correction

Jasmine Smothers is no longer Assoc. Director of Connectional Ministry. She is now the Sr. pastor of Atlanta First UMC.

KP more than 2 years ago

Thank You

Thank you for this correction. We'll make it immediately.

cynthiaadmin (United Methodist Insight) more than 2 years ago

Balanced?

Are there really 8 bishops and 12 elders for every 11 laity?

Charles Whatley more than 2 years ago

Jasmine Smothers

I believe Rev Smothers is now senior pastor of First UMC Atlanta

Clayton Childers more than 2 years ago

2 Deacons

Two deacons, actually--Rev. Julie Hagar Love and Rev. Casey L. Orr.

Victoria Rebeck more than 2 years ago

3 Possible Options

Since, LGBTQ United Methodists will no longer accept or tolerate anything less than full equality, it seems to me there are 3 possible options:
1) Inclusive Healing
2) Coexistence
3) Exclusive Division

What are your thoughts? Hopes?

John JP Patterson more than 2 years ago

The commission can only make a recommendation

The final decision lies with General Conference which has consistently produced the same answer re same gender relationships in 1972, 1976, 1980, 1984,1988, 1992, 1996, 2000, 2004, 2008. Some of those decisions were in the face of previous commissions who investigated the matter and recommended the church change its stance In 2012 all legislation re homosexuality was tabled and the wording in the Discipline remained unchanged. In 2016 all legislation seeking full inclusion was defeated in committee and progressives were upended re the RCRC and casting Israel as the lone "villain" in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.. Just pointing out some facts. The UMC is in such a mess, it is hard to say what will happen. Chances are great that no matter what, people will leave--there is absolutely no way to make everybody "happy". The UMC has been trying to do that for a very long time and look where it has landed us. For the past 4 years, I've been ready for the UMC to act like a "mature adult" and take a stand and let the chips fall where they may so that everybody can get off this insane merry-go-round. For the record, I am one of the non-progressive labels--clueless which one. Too bad I just can't say I am a United Methodist and everybody knew what that meant! If things keep rocking along as they are the membership vows would soon require a person to identify which faction they belonged to.

Betsy more than 2 years ago

A Modest Proposal

A "United Methodist Affiliation" with two denominations: The Methodist Church and the Wesleyan Covenant Church.

1. The division will occur at the Conference Level, thus solving Trust Clause issues.

2. Individual congregations that wish to not go with the denomination that their Conference chooses will be allowed to transfer to a near-by a Conference going with the other denomination.

3. Clergy memberships will remain in their home conferences, but those who wish to transfer to the other denomination will be allowed to transfer and/or be cross-denominationally appointed. Gay clergy of the inclusive denomination will not be allowed to transfer to the WCC unless they make a vow of celibacy, and any who want to transfer from the WCC to the MC must be willing to accept the presence of self-avowed practicing homosexual clergy but, under no circumstances, will they be required to perform same-gender weddings.

4. Open itineracy for cross denominational appointments will be, at least temporarily, suspended. Congregations in the WCC will not be required to receive a pastor from the MC, and visa versa.

5. Seminaries and the Boards and Agencies will operate at the "Affiliation" level, and both denominations will participate and contribute to them as each's General Conference may determine.

6. Internal reorganization will be up to each denomination's General Conference following the fraction.

Greg Neal more than 2 years ago

Commission

That is about right. Option 1 drives out those who are in favor of keeping the current position. Option 2 breaks up our connectional system. Option 3 drives out those who want full inclusion.

Kevin more than 2 years ago

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