Reactions Continue to Boil over Judicial Council Rulings

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Sometimes we need a little Bible to keep us grounded

Romans 1:20-32New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
20 Ever since the creation of the world his eternal power and divine nature, invisible though they are, have been understood and seen through the things he has made. So they are without excuse; 21 for though they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their senseless minds were darkened. 22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools; 23 and they exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling a mortal human being or birds or four-footed animals or reptiles.
24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the degrading of their bodies among themselves, 25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.
26 For this reason God gave them up to degrading passions. Their women exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error.
28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind and to things that should not be done. 29 They were filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, covetousness, malice. Full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, craftiness, they are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters,[a] insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, rebellious toward parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 They know God’s decree, that those who practice such things deserve to die—yet they not only do them but even applaud others who practice them.

Bob 106 days ago

Off Topic

Far from being a condemnation of LGBT folk, this passage is an indictment of everyone, you and me included.

George Nnixon Shuler 104 days ago

How the Majority Feels

When people live or support lifestyles that conflict with what the church teaches, it causes a loss of cohesion and togetherness for the group. I believe the constant conflict and tension are getting old to the majority of Methodists. Also they feel like those who live or support lifestyles that conflict with what the church teaches are not showing much interest in being part of our group. And that what they teach is not valid and putting people at eternal risk. That alone is very distressing for the majority.

Skipper Anding 107 days ago

the use of the sneering term "lifestyle"

....concerning others' capacities to love is most unfortunate.

George Nixon Suler 104 days ago

An excellent take

The only thing I can add is this question for those that feel the General Conference has gotten it wrong more than 10 times over 40 years and now the Judicial Council has gotten it wrong: Why are you hanging around with us reprobates who refuse to reform to your point of view and also believe that every General Conference has gotten it right as had the judicial Council? As far as I am concerned, if any harm is being done it is because those that disagree with these decisions continue to bang their own heads against a wall. You keep doing the same thing expecting different results and just maybe you need to start living into a reality that includes the possibility that it is just not going to go the way you want it to go. The one thing I admire about progressives is your optimistic tenacity; it is just too bad it is killing the church. Enough is enough. Do the honorable thing and end this madness.

Betsy 103 days ago

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