I Love the United Methodist Church



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Remember the good old days...

Remember in the good old days when a man and woman joined in matrimony to raise children guided by the word of God? Remember when sin was sin and not up for popular vote? Remember when John Wesley preached temperance and virtue? Remember when the Bible was the authority of the Church and our lives? I think I remember those days... My family helped found a Methodist Church before the State was even a state, before there were cars, before many things yet this One Church option is going to kill everything they dug that foundation for.

Brian more than 2 years ago

Conservatives are the problem

Just by reading the wording in several of the comments here, it's clear to me that you strict conservatives/extremist groups are the problem, not the progressives. Progressives have been trying to reach some sort of middle ground with you for years, but your "my way or the highway" attitude is what's bringing the church down. You don't really care about the future of the denomination as long as you can control it...and that's not what church is supposed to be about at all. People of faith should be able to disagree like respectable human beings without feeding into the witch hunt/excommunication mentality you're adhering to. More and more young people are walking away from church in general. A generation or so down the road, there may not even be a UMC. You should be wanting to bring in more people despite differences, not trying to push certain ones out. I firmly believe most of you worship the literal words of the Bible over God almighty himself and God's Spirit, which is supposed to be guiding you as a light in this world. Judgment and division seem to be what you're all about, and if you know your Bible verses so well, you know those are not the fruit of the Spirit.

Quite frankly, if you feel so strongly against the direction the UMC is going, then why don't YOU leave and start your own church? Nobody's holding you back.

Michael more than 2 years ago

Thank you

Thank you for expressing my pain as well. A WCA member and a 20+ year friend and colleague leaned forward during a report about the process of the Way Forward Commission and said to me "It's been nice knowing you." This really was hurtful. Why did he feel the need to say that with such joy in his face? Why if he loved the United Methodist Church and me would he be so gleeful about his plan to leave us both behind. The WCA is not a stupid organization. They have said a lot of the "right" things when confronted with the notion that they are really just trying to steal the denomination or split the denomination, but when you read the stuff they put out and the things they say to one another...Controlling or leaving has ALWAYS been the goal of the two organizations Good News and The Confessing Movement. The IRD has always had division as their only goal. They are an outside organization with deep pockets from the donors who have nothing to do with the denominations that they have attacked for decades.

Thank you for speaking so honestly about your pain (and mine.)

Rev. Billy Kurtz more than 2 years ago

Thank You

Bishop Lewis, thank you for your sanity in this crazy discussion. We have forgotten to keep the main thing the main thing. God is God and we are not. Let the one without sin cast the first stone. - The Church is not perfect, but we need to remember to the vision that Peter experienced, what God has made clean let no one call unclean. I don't believe we are called to leave anyone out, especially those with whom we disagree. I would be surprised if our sexuality was something that would keep us out of heaven. If that's true, then why should it keep us out of communion with each other. May we all be in prayer about this so that we can be a witness to those who have no hope. Oh yeah, I might be wrong. I hope people reading this are willing to say the same thing.

Paul Baker more than 2 years ago

Love the church

It is the progressives who have openly defied our policies and rules and have brought this crisis upon us. They have pledged to delay and disrupt conferences when they do not get their way. They openly defy even our judicial rulings as seen by the unlawfully consecrated lesbian bishop who is still occupying the office. And yet you blame those who hold fast to their beliefs for the current problems within The UMC. You might want to take a closer look and rethink who is to blame here. I am tired of the shrill screaming by the progressives who insist that The UMC be remade into their image. There is no deal that can be made with oath breakers. It is time to resolve the dispute or walk away.

Kevin more than 2 years ago

And what about the reality

That there are progressives who are on their own warpath to force their beliefs on those of us who also deeply love the church every bit as much as you do but have a completely different understanding of the church and Christianity than you do. What about progressives who refuse to accept the word on sexuality every General Conference since 1972 has spoken. The only thing designated to speak on behalf of the whole church has spoken time and time again on sexuality and yet the battle rages on, and the problem are those who agree with General Conference has been saying? What is wrong with this picture? As a laity who has spent years listening to every voice I could find in the UMC, I am stunned that it is drowning in theological plurality. I am stunned that Bishops think it is OK for a church to speak with voices that contradict and conflict with each other, leaving the church nothing in particular to say. This is not easy on any of us who grew up in The Methodist/United Methodist Church. Growing up it was the most stable and consistent thing in my life that was anything but stable and consistent. It consistently pointed to a never changing God. Now it points to a God who does not even know what He intended when He created humans as two distinct genders.

betsy more than 2 years ago

The WCA is the only sane voice and the

Only adult in the room. Whereas LGBT individuals can be Christians, they should never be clergy nor churc leaders. Only those who recognize the LGBT behavior as sinful are credible as church leaders. All others should resign, find another denomination, or choose another line of work. If they can’t discern God’s clear Words Re marriage, homosexuality then they have no business teaching or leading the rest of us. The WCA has the right goal of teaching God’s word as revealed to us via the Bible, and not simply trying to be politically correct. Shame on progressives for trying to lead us astray. I pray for a swift and total split from progressive leaders.

Steve more than 2 years ago

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