Want Schism? Kiss Young People Good-Bye

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You obviously do not know church history

Protestant Christianity is in existence because of division and that has been the MO ever since. There is no unity in any organization when there are no beliefs held in common--something that is sadly lacking in the UMC. The UMC has degenerated into competing and conflicting factions jockeying for position and control. Good news is God will not be out of business if the UMC splits or the 50 years of uninterrupted numerical decline eventually makes it disappear. Stick with seedbed--their theology is rock solid and consistent. Something the UMC is no longer capable of providing. God is always greater than any church, even when it is at its best and currently The UMC has no clue what its best is.

betsy 88 days ago

Well stated, as always.

Ms. Betsy, I always enjoy your posts. As always, you nailed it above from the standpoint of a long-loyal Methodist who has just about had enough, but refuses to go quietly. You are indeed not alone! Anyway, may I take this opportunity to wish you and yours a Merry Christmas? I look forward to continuing our debate with the "other" side in the New Year. God Bless.

Reese 87 days ago

Right on!!

Right on Betsy, my exact thoughts. You are right, the author of the article does not have a church history background. I teach church history and know you are right on!!

Eriberto 86 days ago

The Important Thing

We really don't want to put quantity before quality, so forget numbers of youth and concentrate on a truthful message. Jesus said "the truth will set you free" in John 8:32.. Jesus was a moral person. It is important for those who want to follow Jesus to live the lifestyle He lived.

Skipper 89 days ago

So, holding to values & beliefs of my parents and generations back estrange me from Millennials?

Oh well, I don't know where 40% of their mothers live, so I couldn't reach them anyway. Life can be unfair, in the few years I have left, I will have to live without Millennials and Genzers in my pew.

Reese 89 days ago


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