Preemptive Warfare is UnChristian

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“First Strike David”, Rocked Better Armed Goliath. A No-No?

So, David’s first strike with a rock which felled the evil, larger and better armed Goliath down without any further loss of life was foul play? That’s not what my Sunday School teacher said!
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How about Joshua using that day’s Cruise Missiles to knock down Jericho’s Walls? Joshua 6:1-27. What would Nancy say?
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Of course, a favorite of us old “traditionalists”, Genesis 19, “24Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven; 25And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.”
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Genesis 38:9,10 is certainly descriptive and uncompromising, but not appropriate for this venue.
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I have to wonder if this writer's righteous indignation has been as strong with abortion (murder), and especially with the new abortion right up until and even AFTER birth… I bet not. Liberals can justify the most awful things…
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But, we who have children, and whose children have children and expect generations more, will continue to sling a rock into a tormentor’s head BEFORE he can strike our own. To do less is to apply the Lord Chamberlain peace plan which resulted in millions of deaths, even among “God’s chosen people”. I just can’t believe that was Blessed.
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So, you keep writing Mr. Wolsey. You are a prime example of why the old UMC must be no more.

Reese 203 days ago

Response to Reese

Reese, There are 66 books in the Bible with nearly as many theologies. Some are healthy, others are toxic. Hence, Jesus affirmed some theologies & rejected others. At the beginning of the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus said "You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you. You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you." That means no violence – as we can’t love ‘em if we’ve killed ‘em. Indeed, for the 1st 300 years, the early Christians were notably anti-violence/serving in the military.

Re: David & Joshua, in those stories it was really *God* who acts, not the humans. It was the faith of the shepherd boy that took down Goliath & it was God who took down the walls of Jericho (& their faith in GOD) – it wasn’t leveled by human hands or weapons. The ancient Hebrews followed God's instructions to walk around the walls blowing ram's horns & then the walls came down. “When the trumpets sounded, the army shouted, and at the sound of the trumpet, when the men gave a loud shout, the wall collapsed; so everyone charged straight in, and they took the city.” Also, repeatedly, when the ancient Hebrews advanced into Canna, God wanted to “do the fighting” – not have the Hebrews do it. The Hebrews kept doing it anyway.

God didn’t intend for the Israelites to have kings &/or armies. God relented upon the ancient Hebrew's juvenile pleas for them to "be like the other nations and have a king." (Deut. 17:15). With little actual faith in God, they threw a tantrum & God gave in, but it wasn't God's intention for them. Indeed, Samuel warned that it was GOD that they were offending by seeking to have a king and the armies that go with it: "But when they said, “Give us a king to lead us,” ... so he prayed to the Lord. And the Lord told him: “Listen to all that the people are saying to you; it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected *Me* as their king. As they have done from the day I brought them up out of Egypt until this day, forsaking me and serving other gods, so they are doing to you. Now listen to them; but *warn* them solemnly and let them know what the king who will reign over them will claim as his rights….” For the rest see: 1Sam. 8:1-15

Pro-tip: Yeshua (Jesus) is a variant of Joshua. But the "Joshua" of Nazareth lived-out the meaning of that name: "God saves." The earlier Joshua put faith in "guns" not God. Google article: “Jesus is an unwanted Christmas Present"
In Pax Christi, not Pax Romana/Americana/Violencia,

Roger Wolsey 146 days ago

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