Orthodox, Heterodox and Heretic



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Majority minority

We do not have to do anything with those who hold minority views. GC establishes our policy and we all agree to live by the rules passed at GC. The real question is what do we do with those who refuse to follow the rules. We must compel them to follow or leave. If they do not like the rules then it is up to them to convince enough delegates to change the rules.

Kevin more than 2 years ago

It is not about majority afraid of losing their position

It is about a church attempting to house conflicting and contradictory theologies that leave it saying absolutely nothing in particular. It is about progressives not respecting the designated processes of the institution they pledged to work within. It is about progressives deciding that everybody must believe as they do because they are right and everybody else is wrong. It is about for 47 years General Conference has consistently taken a traditional stance re sexuality and yet the conflict rages on and has escalated because progressives have made sexuality the do or die issue for the church. It is about I have become aware that there is a stream of progressive Christianity within the United Methodist Church that I do not have any need to associate with. It is about I respect the progressive's right to disagree with my beliefs but progressives are incapable of doing the same.

betsy more than 2 years ago

One Church

.WE need to split...let them go.... Tucker Ga.

benjamin matthews more than 2 years ago

Majority of who?

It's also important to understand that orthodoxy is not established by a consensus of the people, but rather a consensus amongst GC delegates. And that's not a representative sample of the Methodist members. It's 50/50 laity/clergy. Orthodoxy is defined as the consensus of our leadership, lay and clergy.

Orthodoxy in the Catholic church seems to be defined by some consensus among the upper clergy leadership. From the outside, it seems to be defined by what the Pope thinks, but he is voted from that group. So his views likely represent the majority view of the majority of their Council of Bishops. It's like the House of Representatives under Paul Ryan. Only bills approved by the majority of the majority get voted on.

Orthodoxy and the members can diverge a lot more in their structure than ours. I think the logic behind our structure makes more sense.

Chad more than 2 years ago

The bishop determines appointments.

A church not accepting an appointment would be a big deal. Glide Memorial refused a pastor and the conference has taken them to court. I’d say at some point replacing the leadership would be in order. Now, it may be the case that the bishop decides they would rather not have that dispute, but the bishop is the bishop. I’m not an expert on this topic, however, and would be curious to know how exactly this would work.

Chad more than 2 years ago