The Sin of Patience at #GC2019



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Is now is not the time to continue demanding that everything goes "your way" but to seek a way to work through this theological gridlock with care, compassion, concern and respect for those who disagree with you. I have been monitoring this situation for several years now and I am not impressed how some progressives believe that, as Christians of the Wesleyan/Methodist persuasion, it is their job to force their beliefs on those who honestly do not wish anybody harm but are as sincerely grounded in their beliefs every bit as much as you are. Where progressives fall short is in not simply disagreeing does not equate to wishing harm come to anybody. As far as I am concerned, it is the progressives who are creating the most harm because you are so upside down in "your cause" that you cannot see the harm you are doing to others. One of the many ways that we differ in our understanding of Christianity of the Methodist/Wesleyan persuasion is that I do not believe it is up to us to change the world and make it a more "just" place. It is about us allowing God to change each and every one of us so that we can view each other with compassion and understanding that we are all broken people living in a broken world. That cannot happen when one faction insists that they are right and everybody else is not only wrong but downright evil.

betsy more than 2 years ago

The Sin of Patience at #GC2019

My heart is heavy and it hurts everyday when I hear other ministers of faith try to take the word of GOD (the BIBLE) and twist the words around to meet their hidden agenda. I never thought in my lifetime I would be hearing that we will have a committee called "The Way Forward". If you really call yourself a true believer of God and his son Jesus Christ then you can not pick and choose what you believe from the bible and what is wrong, outdated, does not pertain to you!! No, from Gen to Revelation the word of GOD is the word of GOD. Church, we are living in the last days on this earth but I don't know about you but this is not my home. The word of GOD tells us that in the last days they will be those in sheep's skin but really they are wolf's leaving the flock to salter. I am tired of the family of God not standing up to say, “If God’s word says it is wrong, then it is wrong.” On that day there will be many who try to enter the gate and they will hear a voice that will say, “I am sorry, I never knew you.” Please understand me when I tell you that I am not above anyone nor are they above me. When I went into ministry I never thought I would be writing a note like this. It is much easier on the sideline then on the front line but if any of you who read this agrees with me then I would welcome your response. If you don’t agree with me I still will value your response but I promise you this I will not back down. Someone tried that with 3 Hebrew men and you know somehow they made it through a fiery furnace by standing firm. Church, STAND FIRM and share your faith of JESUS CHRIST paid it all for everyone. That is why it should not be about a title for your way of life. You should live life to the fullness each and every day thanking Jesus Christ for a new day and ask him to be beside you, behind you, in front of you leading you on the journey he has planned for you. May God Bless YOU!

Ernie Bagley Ft Knox, KY more than 2 years ago

There are so many, Ernie

There are so many folks, Ernie, who admire those ministers and Bishops who are brave enough to stand up for the Word of God. I just hope that if the day comes, I can walk with you in that fiery furnace, less concerned with what the world and culture around me thinks, and more concerned wth being obedient to God’s will.

John more than 2 years ago

Let’s face it we’re never going to agree on

The issue. Whereas you see discrination, I don’t see any discrimination. I only see God’s Word. To me, the Bible is very clear homosexuality is a sin and marriage is only between a man and a woman. That is not discrimination, that is the Word of God, for the people of God. If anyone cannot understand, or refuses to accept God’s word, they are not credible as a church leader. I have no problem having a cup of coffee with you or sharing a pew together, but our understanding of God’s Word is too different and I would never want to be present with you in the pulpit, or even leading a Sunday school class. I don’t consider that discrimination, just a lack of credibility. So we can each pursue following our disparate paths, it is best that we split and not try to force a relationship that will never be one of unity.

Steve more than 2 years ago