2019 General Conference Passes Traditional Plan



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So, Your Point is?

1) Why are progressives so upset at the passing of the "Traditional" Plan - the bishops and the Judicial Council have failed to enforce the current BoD for decades, so why would anyone expect them to enforce a restated, but essentially the same plan?
2) Why are traditionalists so elated at the passing of the "Traditional" Plan - see 1) above
3) Example: Were there not homosexual clergy from UMC pulpits at this GC? Were they challenged by credentials or Judicial or just welcomed and seated? Exactly! BoD? Forgetaboutit!
4) Example: Was there a not a lesbian bishop from a UMC conference at the GC? Was she challenged by credentials or Judicial or just welcomed, seated, and allowed to speak? Exactly! BoD? Forgetaboutit!
5) Was serious support for the two exit plans surprising? Not to me. Because, reading the blogs, so many of us are just tired of the subject,, the debate, the whining and distractions from our church life. As expected, for all the time, money, drama, tears and protests, this GC was a complete waste of time. It is a monument to bad management for over 50 years. Nothing has really changed and the WCA and other exit proponents will have a plethora of new examples of reasons to hit the doors.
6) Bad management? Has our UMC management ever made clear to all seminaries, annually in writing, to be read and signed by all new prospective UMC clergy,
"UMC forbids homosexual clergy. Do not apply to UMC"? Forgetaboutit!
7) Au contraire. I suspect that seminaries were left alone to tell their new students, "Together, we can change the UMC!" Well, they are not changing it much, but they are doing a bang-up job of destroying it!

Reese more than 2 years ago


So, I see from your comment, there is indeed hope that the struggle against the extremism this vote represents will go on. I will certainly continue to support bringing this wretched church body kicking and screaming into the 21st Century. Thank you.

George Nixon Shuler more than 2 years ago

Send me a postcard when you get there. I ain't going thata way...

There are several alternatives from previous centuries from which to choose. My momma said, "Moral is as moral does."

Reese more than 2 years ago