My Response to Asbury President Tim Tennent

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Brother is drinking the kool aid

Satan has always been at work. If one doubts that, just look at the mess and complacency that exits in our churches today, not just the UMC, but many others as well. The congregations that are flourishing are the ones that adhere to Biblical principles and teachings, people are hungry for Biblical truths. If you want popular culture values, the church isn't the place to be teaching that, turn on your media and you will be bombarded with "feel good and do whatever you want messages". The discipline of the UMC is just that, a man made book of rules. Go back to scripture and that should always be the foundation. Read what is said in : 2 Timothy 3:13-17 (ESV)

13 while evil people and impostors will go on from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. 14 But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have firmly believed, knowing from whom you learned it 15 and how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work." This is the time to rally behind the teachers and leaders, such as Asbury, do not go the ways of the world or man and "lean not on your own understanding". The battle has already been won, read Revelations.

Tracy 105 days ago

Asbury

Money is the life blood of any organization. If you don't like what an org is doing keep your money in your pocket. Done and done. Just ask Montgomery Ward, Gibson's, A&P, Eastern Airlines, KMart, The Crystal Cathedral, etc.

Thank you

Richard Hicks 109 days ago

What I don't get

Asbury is clearly up front with their traditionalists belief on marriage. Why would a LGBTQIA person go there in the first place? The only reason they are hearing what they consider to be a harmful homophobic message is because they have chosen to go to Asbury. There are other seminaries that would clearly fall in line with their way of thinking but yet they chose to go to Asbury and then they cry foul; I am being harmed by this message. It is as simple as this: If LGBTQIA persons do not want to feel harmed by the traditionalist message then they should most definitely not go to a traditionalist church or seminary. As a traditionalist, my answer to the progressive leanings of the United Methodist Church is to distance myself from it.

betsy 111 days ago

When Jesus sent the disciples out on their own

One of his admonitions to them was that if the people in a place were unwelcoming/unresponsive to their message, they were to leave, shaking the dust of the place off their sandals. Jesus never forced anybody to do anything, he simply stated his message and kept on moving. Some people bought into what Jesus was saying, others did not and he let them walk away. The same can be said about John Wesley. Methodism is in existence because he conveyed a specific message about God and us. The only people that he worked with on an ongoing basis were those who came to him and said, "Tell us more. Help us to understand what this means for our daily lives". In short, Christianity at its best is not about dragging/forcing people into a new way of thinking; it is about stating a message and then work with those who respond to the message, wanting to know more. This is only one of a myriad examples of how completely different progressives and traditionalists are in how they view Christianity. Many traditionalists take the advice of the member of the Sanhedrien who said that they should leave the Jesus followers alone because if they were truly of God then they would not be stopped; if they were not of God then they and their message would fade away.

betsy 111 days ago

Dear Asbury

Please reject the author’s “suggestions” to move from being one of the few remaining Traditional Orthodox Christian seminaries from which Congregations like mine can find appropriately trained ministers and towards being just another “approved” Methodist seminary that garble Scripture to suit political liberals. For heaven’s sake, Candler School of Theology, a so-called “approved Methodist seminary” just named a Unitarian as it’s official Chaplain and a Dean of Spiritual Life! No thanks. Asbury, in the words of Billy Joel, “we like you just the way you are.”

John 112 days ago

Amen

Amen, Brother John. I heard Keith Boyette speak last week. Mr. Boyette is the president of the WCA. He said the new traditional United Methodist Church, however and whenever it gets here, will not have official "approved seminaries" funded directly by the church. Instead, the funding will follow the individual prospective pastors. That will mean significantly more funding for students going to Asbury (and United and a few other schools) and substantially less (hopefully none) for Illif, Emory, and their like.

theenemyhatesclarity 111 days ago

Emory Chaplain

Correction: Candler did not name a Unitarian as its chaplain. Emory University did.

Nora C 111 days ago

I stand corrected

You are correct it was Emory University, of which Candler School of Theology is a part, which appointed a Unitarian as Official Chaplain. Not sure that makes a huge difference since Candler, being a school within Emory University, now has a Unitarian as its School Chaplain. A distinction without a difference perhaps? Either way, I can’t see why faithful Methodist congregations would continue to financial support Candler or Emory under these circumstances.

John 109 days ago

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