It IS Simple!



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It doesn't get any simpler than this

If we are such a depraved and harmful church then you should leave instead of expending all your energy and time in trying to force your views on the rest of us.

betsy 60 days ago

Even Simpler is

The Traditionalist Plan. It does NOT come from the Queer Clergy Caucus. In fact the Traditionalist Plan would do away with the Queer Clergy Caucus by means of asking them to resign or defrocking them after they violated their oath.

The Traditionalist Plan does not require any changes to the BOD. It would simply require enforcement of its policies (after all there must be discipline as part of the BOD). There would be no more ignoring those policies you didn’t like.

The Traditionalist Plan simply requires adherence to the same BOD which clergy originally swore an oath to uphold. If they can no longer adhere to that oath, they can leave. It is ridiculous to try and change the BOD because you have had a change of heart AFTER you swore an oath to that BOD. It is YOUR problem, not the UMC’s problem.

So, Rev. Lyall asks what could be simpler than the Simple Plan? Well, it turns out that the Traditionalist Plan is actually simpler than the Simple Plan.

Your loving brother in Christ,

Steve 61 days ago

Love your neighbor

except for the part about loving your neighbor. The Traditionalist Plan is lacking on that score.

Catherine 57 days ago

Not true

Traditionalist Plan gives clergy another opportunity to abide by their oath they took originally to abide by the BOD. That is loving them enough to give them another chance to act in a Godly manner and follow through with what they swore an oath before God to uphold. If they can’t be trusted to abide by their word, they have no credit ability and no place in church leadership.

Loving them does not equal agreeing with them.

Steve 56 days ago

Notable Quotes   

    "The Judicial Council’s work compellingly shows that our denomination is in schism and has been for some years and if we really want to heal this schism, then (dare I say it?) we have to back up and try our best to answer basic questions. What is it, actually, that unites United Methodists? ...  If doctrines do not define church, then we don’t know our identity or mission. If we don’t know our identity and mission, we will never be able to agree on what constitutes appropriate or inappropriate behavior and we will never be able to exercise meaningful accountability."

– The Rev. Steven Rankin, in a post "Judicial Council Proves We're Already in Schism"


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