Biblical and Inclusive: Methodism Wrestles with Homosexuality

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homosexuality as a normal variation

Please, get real. The Sodom passage is about an attempted drunken gang rape to show power and insult to Lot and his guests. There was NOTHING about one man loving another man....sexual orientation is about whom you love, not just a 'sex act' and we know that some heteralsexual men ask their spouses for anal sex. Do you call that a sin? Are you going to outlaw that? Ask any minister or counselor or divorce lawyer, anal sex is not unknown among heterosexuals. Are they "sodomites"?
New Testament verses used against LGBT people are about fertility rites or pedophilia. and some verses translated today as 'homosexual' had other meanings in their original languages. We need more scholars.
God made those of us who are LGBT as we are!!!!! The only "choice" is to be who God created us to be, or to pretend to be Heterosexual and being unhappy and leaving a spouse unhappy.
We are human beings, and have a right to enjoy "sex is God's good gift" as the Book of Discipline says, and the right to full membership, using our gifts and talents and our calls to ministry being honored, and our unions being blessed and celebrated with a wedding ceremony----we are part of families, everywhere, throughout time, among all tribes and continents.
The Quadrilateral demands that our denomination get real and fully includes us.
Accepting just our tithes is an insult to Jesus who said to love one another.

Elsie Gauley Vega more than 9 years ago


The Bible is not the "Word of God". It is men's "words about God". Those words are limited by their psychological world view. They lived on a "flat earth" at the "center of the universe" ruled by a "being above the sky" who was "jealous and vengeful". The words about homosexuality in Leviticus and Numbers are unchristian, immoral, and unscientific in the 21st century, not to mention that they are contrary to the teachings of Jesus about the love of God.

William J. Russell, M.Div., Ph.D. more than 9 years ago

The person in the pew

What is the person in the pew supposed to do that does not have your biblical scholarship? What is the person in the pew supposed to do when my lifelong understanding is homosexuality is a sin? What is the person in the pew supposed to do whose only exposure to the gay community in the church is during General Conference and they come across as obnoxious, completely disrespectful of the practices of the church. and willing to break the church to achieve their ends?

I was stunned by the tweets originating from both sides. But when comments originate out tof the gay community about "Become inclusive or become extinct"--I don't understand that attitude towards the church, the body of Christ. You don't knowingly do anything to create a shism within the church. In the last years I sidelined myself in church because I realized I had nothing positive, or unifying to say. I can not fathom being in the same congregation with somebody that would see the church become extinct because they could not "have their way".

Betsy more than 9 years ago

Is Anti-Homosexuality Essential?

Hmmm... "In essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; in all things, charity. There are many doctrines of a less essential nature... In these we may think and let think; we may 'agree to disagree.' These are the fundamental doctrines... summed up, as it were, in two words, -- the new birth, and justification by faith." - John Wesley

Jpinsatx more than 9 years ago