Bishops' Proposal Garners Range of Responses

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All the bosses are missing the point, the reality, the future!

I am a “traditionalist” as it’s called, but, I think the “traditionalist” position as described here and seemingly promoted by the WCA and others, more or less, is going NOWHERE.

I am also a REALIST. I understand that the liberals are not going to change or accept any traditionalist leaning vote. I doubt we conservative traditionalists will accept any “progressive” vote like “one church” (where every single church decides whatever is moral, Christian, good, bad, etc…), but all UMC churches are still connected? So, a traditionalist church in a progressive conference gets a gay bishop and then pressure to perform gay marriages, then has to decide whether or not to accept the "trans" preacher the progressive conference decides to send? What could go wrong? Seriously! There is no way to organize this chaos!

Bishops, especially the retired bishops, want the “one church” idea to succeed to protect retirements. I am pained by their situation, but we can find ways to treat them fairly. However, we who worry more about the future churches, we see two separate churches, two independent churches where both sides can define their own rules and rites, and focus on our mission of service and representing our Lord.

We traditionalists must recognize that the world around us is changing. Perhaps we must retreat and reorganize to continue to live and worship within our values and traditions. You progressives need to understand that you have the power to change things, but do not expect our respect, support, money or membership in the adventure. "Go Your Own Way".

Reese more than 3 years ago

The Way Forward

I agree 100% with Reese. When the church starts amending he Bible to accommodate secular views, where does it end? If that happens it's time for a new church. Remember, Jesus said "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the way that leads to life, and only a few find it.…

Skeeter more than 3 years ago

Only 2 solutions

I hope this issue is finally put to rest. However, from my perspective, the only solutions are to : 1 Adhere to and enforce the current discipline or 2 Split the church. Otherwise, I agree there is no way to avoid chaos. My wife and I had a conversation just this past weekend about where we'd be going to church if anything other than those two options is chosen. I cannot, in good faith, support via attendance or finances any church that promotes non-scriptural practices.

Rick A Mattox more than 3 years ago


Amen and amen

betty more than 3 years ago

Notable Quotes

“The present proposed divorce in the UMC is not about sexual morality or justice and inclusion. It is about who is in charge. The 2019 Special Called General Conference gave the ‘traditionalists’ everything they wanted regarding gay weddings and ordinations. But they are still leaving. ... Splitting the church is never about anything but who holds authority.”

– C. Don Jones, “Forgiveness and The Future Schism (Part 1)” from his blog "Glorious Life" on

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